There are no priests or popes of science. Scientists , unlike priests, popes, or AR nuts, rely on evidence and logic. The power and authority of science is nothing compared to the power and authority of the church, the politicians, the businessman, or the entertainers. It doesn’t even come close. People who have no logical or scientific basis for their claims deserve to be attacked and discredited. The church attacks and tries to discredit people because of religious bigotry. How dare you compare our conversational intolerance to their religious intolerance, you worm.

It should be obvious just how paralyzed by fear Jason and his colleagues are. Name calling and insults are their only weapons, while we have truth, honesty and forth-rightness on our side. I hope that they continue to deride and marginalize the vast number of people that clearly understand and endorse the value of biomedical research because it only continues to erode any lingering support they have for their cause.

I think it is critical to emphasize how bitter, angry and hateful Jason and all his colleagues are. They claim to be vehicles of kindness and support for living beings, but, in fact, they are the opposite. They claim that the loving students and colleagues that surround us are sycophants, but in fact, that word applies to no one more than themselves.

Widespread disgust at the actions of animal rights extremists against the Hall family and many other villagers at Newchurch was one of the reasons why Pro-Test got such a warm welcome from the press when they launched their campaign in Oxford a few months later. A lot of people were sick of the actions of AR extremists, and worried that other minority causes might adopt the same tactics, so cheered those who were willing to make a public stand against them.

That’s why those ALF boneheads prefer to bomb scientists in CA and not a big farm in Texas… At the very least they are smart enough to predict the results… However, in my opinion, CA scientists have had enough and I would not be surprised if many of them are now making sure they have exactly what they need to protect themselves and their families from these criminals.

Bill – why are you a “former” SPEAK activist? Did they kick you out? Or they were too moderate for you?

You’ll also note that animal rights successes are few and far between in the UK since the movement overstepped itself and the government finally decided to put a halt to its violent campaigns – and they can’t even recruit new members because the youth have become so disillusioned with the AR movement.

You ran our arse out the country? I seem to remember SPEAK originally saying “this lab won’t be built”, then changing to “We will try to stop the lab being completed”, and finally to “well, despite us, they built the lab – let’s shout at it anyway” – could this explain the “former” in “SPEAK activist”?

Check your history. Perhaps check what actually happened – http://speakingofresearch.com/about/the-uk-experience/

Speaking of wankers…. As we in the US would say, your [Bill Tarr] article is a load of crap. You scared the stock exchange into not listing HLS but only for a little while. It was eventually listed. The AR movement frequently resorts to threat of violence or actual violence against their targets. I’ve never heard a researcher say, “Believe our findings or we’ll firebomb your house!”

It would be a grave mistake on your part to think that your protest tactics will work everywhere. You may stand behind First Amendment rights (which you don’t have not being American) but you’d find a lot more willing to exercise their Second Amendment rights and more than willing to violate most of the rest.

“Having seen some of Prof. Jentsch’s vervet monkeys I was impressed at the high standards of welfare – as well as the personal care and responsibility that Jentsch felt towards his animals.”

Would those be the same vervet monkeys that wanker Jentsch so lovingly addicts to crystal meth and PCP?

Who’s desperate Tom? We ran your scrawny little arse out of the country, so you came to the US, started another row you won’t be able to finish, and proclaimed a victory after one pitiful demo.

If you think people are going to believe your rubbish, you’re a daft little bugger.

Read this—it’s spot on:

To date, the Animal Liberation Movement in the UK and US has shut down numerous animal breeders, stopped construction of a number of major research centers, and forced HLS off the New York Stock Exchange…..The global vivisection complex is a matrix of power-knowledge reflecting the centrality of science in postindustrial society. It is comprised of pharmaceutical industries, biotechnology industries, medical research industries, universities, and testing laboratories. All these institutions use animals to test and market their drugs; animals are the gas and oil without which corporate science machines cannot function. As corporations like Huntingdon Life Sciences and Chiron are global in scope and have clients throughout the world, animal liberation groups such as the ALF and Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty (SHAC) are also global in their resistance. A seemingly local group like Stop Newchurch Guinea Pigs (NSGP), which waged aggressive war in an English village against a family who breed guinea pigs for research in England, is also part of the anti-globalization movement because the family they attacked – and ultimately shut down — supplied animals to the Global Vivisection Complex. Whatever the political views of anti-vivisectionists — whether libertarian, free market, socialist, or anarchist – they are monkeywrenching globalization from above. The direct action anti-vivisection movement disrupts corporate supply chains, thwarts their laboratory procedures, and liberates their captive slaves…..Besides the economic threat of the DAAVM, it also poses a strong philosophical and ideological threat by attacking the ideological legitimacy of animal-based “science.” The powerful, fact-based assault on the legitimacy of vivisection mounted by the DAAVM and animal rights movements is an assault on the authority of Science itself, an attack on the modern Church of Reason. The anti-vivisection movement exposes the fallacies of vivisection and reveals how science serves the interests of corporations such that objectivity is something to be bought and sold (e.g., junk science and falsified data to dispute global warming was funded by energy corporations such as Exxon-Mobil)…..Like the Christian church in its hey day, the popes and priests of Science are compelled to defend their authority and power by attacking and discrediting their opponents (in academia and elsewhere).

Bill Tarr
former SPEAK activist